<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><?xml-stylesheet href="http://www.blogger.com/styles/atom.css" type="text/css"?><feed xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom' xmlns:openSearch='http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearchrss/1.0/'><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14707730.post2884042214061565474..comments</id><updated>2009-11-15T17:31:54.047-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Comments on Schools Matter: The Three Stooges Go to School</title><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.schoolsmatter.info/feeds/2884042214061565474/comments/default'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14707730/2884042214061565474/comments/default'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.schoolsmatter.info/2009/11/three-stooges-go-to-school.html'/><author><name>Jim Horn</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04462754705431590571</uri><email>ontogenyx@mac.com</email></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>1</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>25</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14707730.post-3962191541149037969</id><published>2009-11-15T15:28:28.866-05:00</published><updated>2009-11-15T15:28:28.866-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Hi Jim -- One thing that the study on KIPP attriti...</title><content type='html'>Hi Jim -- One thing that the study on KIPP attrition that you cite did not research was the ethnic breakout of the students who &amp;quot;left.&amp;quot; But I&amp;#39;ve done some of that (as an unpaid volunteer advocate for public education). So here is some critical additional information!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This is research that I did in February 2007 on KIPP Bridge Academy in Oakland, Calif.:&lt;br /&gt;**&lt;br /&gt;Here are the figures for KIPP Bridge&amp;#39;s class that finished 8th grade in 2006:&lt;br /&gt;Total enrollment, all demographics:&lt;br /&gt;87 students started 5th grade in 02-03;&lt;br /&gt;60 continued to 6th grade in 03-04;&lt;br /&gt;50 continued to 7th grade in 04-05;&lt;br /&gt;36 continued to 8th grade in 05-06.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;IMPORTANT NOTE: Those are fall statistics, so we don&amp;#39;t know how many actually finished 8th grade and were promoted to high school.&lt;br /&gt;Similar pattern for the class that is to finish 8th grade in 2007:&lt;br /&gt;82 started 5th grade in 03-04;&lt;br /&gt;78 continued to 6th grade in 04-05;&lt;br /&gt;47 continued to 7th grade in 05-06;&lt;br /&gt;number who finished 8th grade unknown.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;African-American boys:&lt;br /&gt;35 started 5th grade in 02-03;&lt;br /&gt;19 continued to 6th grade in 03-04;&lt;br /&gt;15 continued to 7th grade in 04-05;&lt;br /&gt;8 continued to 8th grade in 05-06.&lt;br /&gt;Again, those are fall figures, so we don&amp;#39;t know how many finished 8th grade and were promoted to high school. This means 77% of the African-American boys who started at this KIPP school either left or were retained to repeat a grade (this is unknowable unless KIPP chooses to tell us) by the FALL of 8th grade. We also don&amp;#39;t know, unless KIPP chooses to tell us, how many of those eight finished 8th grade and went on to high school.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Additional note from Caroline: I looked at figures for all then-nine California KIPP schools when I did that research. Six of them showed that same clear pattern -- high attrition, but far higher for the most academically challenged demographic subgroup -- either African-American boys or Latino boys. The SRI study that you cite was done AFTER I did my research, and confirms it, except that as I say, that study didn&amp;#39;t break out the attrition by ethnicity.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14707730/2884042214061565474/comments/default/3962191541149037969'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14707730/2884042214061565474/comments/default/3962191541149037969'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.schoolsmatter.info/2009/11/three-stooges-go-to-school.html?showComment=1258316908866#c3962191541149037969' title=''/><author><name>caroline</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/08127336930949752636</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://www.schoolsmatter.info/2009/11/three-stooges-go-to-school.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14707730.post-2884042214061565474' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14707730/posts/default/2884042214061565474' type='text/html'/></entry></feed>